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1 year ago ::
01 Apr 12 06:16 PM
#31
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2009
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Flopping big in bad postion.
***** Cassava Hand History for Game 425258264 ***** $0.25/$0.50 Blinds Pot Limit OmahaHL - *** 01 04 2012 14:32:43 Table Ahmadabad (Real Money) Seat 7 is the button Total number of players : 8 Seat 1: Domme11010 ( $35.19 ) Seat 2: peter291 ( $52.96 ) Seat 3: Rocko119 ( $57.43 ) Seat 4: geshahesh.84 ( $21.35 ) Seat 5: Danil910 ( $209.70 ) Seat 7: fanattt111 ( $135.01 ) Seat 9: mrg153 ( $10 ) Seat 10: slim71 ( $50 ) mrg153 posts small blind [$0.25] slim71 posts big blind [$0.50] Domme11010 posts big blind [$0.50] geshahesh.84 posts dead blind [$0.25 + $0.50]
** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to slim71 [ 7h, Qd, Ac, Kd ]
Domme11010 checks peter291 calls [$0.50] Rocko119 calls [$0.50] geshahesh.84 checks Danil910 calls [$0.50] fanattt111 calls [$0.50] mrg153 calls [$0.25] slim71 checks *
* Dealing flop ** [ Qh, Jh, Td ]
mrg153 checks
This is my 1st hand of the session, how would you procede and whats your thinking behind what you do. I will post up later (48 hrs to give time for people to have there say) . I have 2 targets on this table in seats 4 and 7.
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1 year ago ::
01 Apr 12 07:27 PM
#32
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Date Joined:
Aug 15, 2010
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I have no idea Slim as don't play the cash tables but depending what players before are doing I prob at least call as you already have straight but it defo could change as 2 hearts on board and you only have 1. I reckon this hand could change bringing either flush FH or quads easy so do you try and chase them off or risk someone getting a better hand. It could even split several ways with you losing cash as you only have hi and no low.
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1 year ago ::
01 Apr 12 10:42 PM
#33
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a split with low isnt possible, only going for high now after this flop.
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1 year ago ::
02 Apr 12 07:40 PM
#34
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Date Joined:
Dec 30, 2007
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As Zock says, hand is for high only and you have the nuts...for now, as Dory rightly points out. Family pot with all eight players in the hand and with the dead blind puts the pot at $4.25
Almost certain to be at least one flush draw out there, so the obvious move is to pot bet to try and get rid
A trickier play would be a small to medium bet to try and build the pot hoping they all miss the turn and then see them off with the pot bet
The other option is to check it hoping to get a small flush draw to bet and then pot bet when it comes back around
Your position is not great here with 6 behind you and the worst case is someone else has the AK with the flush draw too (possibly A hi), so I favour the small bet (maybe $1 or $1.50) and see what happens being prepared to stop if the third heart appears or the board pairs, and we are not too committed. couple of big stacks at that table and they are not going away to a $4 bet if they have a nut flush draw
I'm thinking you checked this slim?
From Pandæmonium, capital of Hell in Paradise Lost, an epic poem by John Milton : Greek pan-, pan- + Late Latin daemonium, demon (from Greek daimonion, from daimn, lesser god, demon; see demon)
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1 year ago ::
03 Apr 12 07:31 PM
#35
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2009
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Your right Pande i did check this as was waiting for other players to act and then play the hand from what the other players actions were.
I was expecting a bet from seat 4 as have him down as a very LAG player who likes to gamble.
** Dealing flop ** [ Qh, Jh, Td ] mrg153 checks slim71 checks Domme11010 checks peter291 checks Rocko119 checks geshahesh.84 checks Danil910 checks fanattt111 folds
** Dealing turn ** [ 6s ]
mrg153 checks slim71 bets [$4.25] Domme11010 calls [$4.25] peter291 calls [$4.25] Rocko119 folds geshahesh.84 raises [$20.60] Danil910 folds mrg153 folds.
Ok the turn is a brick and my thinking is i still have the best hand but still a hand that can be hurt by any HEART or PAIRING.
I decide to lead out as want any 1 drawing to pay for there draw and also want to start building the pot. Call, Call, Allin for rest of his stack action back on me. Pot is now $37.60 with 2 players still to act behind me. I have no notes on seat 1 so unsure of his play and seat 2 i only have a few hundred hands on him and seems solid.
What would you do now? (same as above il give you time to answer).
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1 year ago ::
05 Apr 12 07:05 PM
#36
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2009
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Ok no1 wants to chip in on the turn card, so i will finish it off. In Omaha its always good to be drawing to a better hand so if my hand was drawing to the nut flush or if i had had A K Q Q then i would be drawing to Quads or a F/H. Its always best to have more outs to come that can improve your hand. The 3 remaining seats could all have AK, as well possible but slim, 1 must have at least the flush draw 1 could have a set and other 2 pair and like i say they could all have the nuts as well but drawing to a much better hand. So you could be putting in your stack risking it all only for it to be split up anyway and with lots of cards to come that you will lose your whole buyin.
I think now going over my hand i should have checked again the turn and called to see the river if there wasnt to much action after my check, sometimes you have to fold the nuts when you are faced with strong action after your bet. This is why having notes on players is so invaluable as in time you can work out who the maniacs are or who the rocks are. I dont think the river outcome matters as for the reasons i have posted above.
Do you agree, or is it worth the gamble as say for example they all had hearts they were chasing or 2 of them had the others cards preventing them getting a fullhouse.
This is why i love omaha and omaha8 as it is a good thinking game, say for example you have aces and the flop comes down with 3 to your suit and you only hold the bare ace of that suit you now know you can rep the nuts and make it very tough for your opponents to call ( again you need your notes as some players cant fold any flush they hit ).
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1 year ago ::
05 Apr 12 08:39 PM
#37
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Date Joined:
Jul 20, 2007
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ok slim really not my game this but i'll give my view anyways  . if am checking the flop am also checking the turn with the view of check raising turn depending on the action after all we still got the nuts at this point. you say you got two targets here (easy money?) you gonna bide your time and pick them off. for what its worth I'm calling hoping for at least one more call behind for the river to brick.
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1 year ago ::
12 Apr 12 06:59 PM
#38
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Date Joined:
Dec 30, 2007
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Sorry about the delay on this one slim, we have been away - didn't even have a phone signal lol
I would agree that having checked the flop you should have checked the river but that is not giving a good return if your hand holds up. The small flop bet would have given you more info to work with and more options on the turn.
Geshahesh is one of your targets here and having played him myself believe him easily capable of the bluff here - he would not think anyone checked the nut flop, and I am fairly sure he didn't himself with so many in the pot - or he has a good two pair or set with maybe the flush draw too (though I think not).
With Gesh all in here my preference is to reraise in the hope the two behind are folding what I think are draws.
From Pandæmonium, capital of Hell in Paradise Lost, an epic poem by John Milton : Greek pan-, pan- + Late Latin daemonium, demon (from Greek daimonion, from daimn, lesser god, demon; see demon)
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1 year ago ::
12 Apr 12 07:15 PM
#39
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2009
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Your spot on with your reply as what i did next, i did reraise allin to get the others behind to fold but 1 of them called so it was 3 hands to the flop. Have a guese of what the 2 villains cards were and the closest will win a buyin to the daily Hi Lo $300 game which is $11 buyin.
As i said earlier when i go over my hands later after i play my sessions, i still dont like my move in this hand as a better move would have been to check the turn. Its a horrible situation as we are playing the hand out of postion, checking gives us more pot controll from not doing what happened. As i said in earlier post and like hold em its always best to play in postion your win rate is so much higher in late postion, and wont put you in tricky spots like this hand.
(24 hours to post up villains hands)
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1 year ago ::
12 Apr 12 07:22 PM
#40
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Date Joined:
Mar 14, 2009
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one of those days =)
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2 pair combos with AhXh should be what hes getting it in with seen people get it in much lighter tho!!
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