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6 months ago  ::  22 Nov 12 03:28 PM #181
jack
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hi m8,

easy fold.

1. 3 1/2 big blinds to call with 4 players to act (1 sitting out?), 15% of your stack with such a marginal hand is too dangerous. button is short stacked and may push with anything, if noone else acts, you have to expect the original raiser to at least call. or re-raise to try to isolate the all-in

if he only calls, now you'll have to make it 30% of your stack against 2 players, just to see a flop

2. if noone else acts, you're heads-up with the raiser, an ace hits, your kicker stinks, if he continuation bets, how does ur kicker look? can you afford to call or push on a hand you may be completely dominated in?

3. with a loose table, you may get 3 or 4 more callers.

your only hope would be to hit the flush or 2 deuces on the flop, not a very promising scenario. it is hands like these that cause us to bleed chips, save them for a better spot.

papa 
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6 months ago  ::  22 Nov 12 03:45 PM #182
donnie
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Fold fold fold , no need to be playing this junk , although ace rags beat me a lot  grrr but u will lose in the long run playing these hands . Seems to me u got a huge starting range if u think this is a interesting hand , maybe tighten up a little preflop :)
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6 months ago  ::  22 Nov 12 06:10 PM #183
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Im folding too ...... may be worth a try if you were first 2 raise but you have a raiser before you ...... if you did call ..... and were lucky with the rest folding ...... thats 850 in the pot .... lets say the board comes rag rag rag .... and he puts a c bet of 600 ..... what you going to do?....... if the board comes A rag rag ..... and he c bets 600 how do you like your kicker ???? 

im finding a better spot with 25 bb on a full table

Andy 
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6 months ago  ::  22 Nov 12 08:17 PM #184
nitevenom
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most of you know , one of my big leaks was the flush draw.... and the nut flush draw was tempting , but the table was very loose and I was not prepared to get into a race at this point so yes I went with the majority and folded ... now I did say the hand was interesting and here is why .. I folded and the player next to me shoved surprise surprise (not really is what I thought he/she would do ) so let us see what happens next... 

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 Here is  my point of interest ... many players would see how this went down and thought to themselves " I knew I should have played the hand "  ..yes the table was loose and yes the hand was the dominator on all streets , but a fold was still the right play .. the table is loose ..so you should tighten up .. don't kick yourself for doing the right play . Yes there are times when you can play Ah 2h but this was one of them , yes you would have creamed the 2 other players in this hand , but playing this hand in this spot would lose you more in the long run . Not a great player am I but am learning and sharing what has been learnt so far . 

now My Question ....  when playing you need to mix things up a bit in order not to be read to easily by other players so what percentage of times should you throw in a wild mix to confuse the masses and when ? 

and why do I get quads when I am in a hand I must fold preflop ??? 
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6 months ago  ::  22 Nov 12 10:29 PM #185
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How often to mix it up...hmmm...interesting questions. I would recommend to get used to mixing it up by only doing it in position to begin with, also be concious of your table image if you are loose you are no going to get the respect as you would if you were tight, once you show a mixed up hand you need to be careful for a while after as other players are more likely to ask questions of your hands.

Also only do it if you need to, i.e. card dead 
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