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2 years ago  ::  11 May 16 07:56 PM #1
grumpy (got me vajazzle back)
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#Game No : 882978535
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 882978535 *****
$0.02/$0.05 Blinds Pot Limit Omaha - ***
Table Fortaleza 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: HardMagiccc ( $32.22 )
Seat 2: neverhood47 ( $2.95 )
Seat 3: grump15 ( $6.90 )
Seat 4: Fishtale456 ( $5.32 )
Seat 5: Melaksanteri ( $4.75 )
Seat 6: MValley ( $1.90 )
Seat 7: Drifter_CH ( $15.17 )
Seat 9: linda7594 ( $12.34 )
Seat 10: kieran41111 ( $7.13 )
MValley posts small blind [$0.02]
Drifter_CH posts big blind [$0.05]
neverhood47 posts dead blind [$0.02 + $0.05]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to grump15 [ Qd, Kd, Jc, 8s ]
linda7594 calls [$0.05]
kieran41111 folds
HardMagiccc calls [$0.05]
neverhood47 checks
grump15 calls [$0.05]
Fishtale456 calls [$0.05]
Melaksanteri calls [$0.05]
MValley folds
Drifter_CH checks
** Dealing flop ** [ Td, 9h, Kh ]
Drifter_CH bets [$0.19]
linda7594 calls [$0.19]
HardMagiccc calls [$0.19]
neverhood47 folds
grump15 calls [$0.19]
Fishtale456 raises [$1.53]
Melaksanteri folds
Drifter_CH calls [$1.34]
linda7594 folds
HardMagiccc calls [$1.34]
grump15 ????????????????


although  i hit the flop with the straight i do not have the flush redraw, at this point i feel i am only splitting the pot, if the straight holds to the river.   i am putting fishtale on the same straight as me with the flush draw and at least one of the other 2 on nothing but a flush draw.....thoughts on call or fold?
a pair of melons beats anything
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2 years ago  ::  11 May 16 10:56 PM #2
donnie(badcallm8)
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I'm shoving here , folding is not a option , why would u fold with the best hand possible , make them pay to catch there flush if they even have that draw .
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2 years ago  ::  12 May 16 03:45 PM #3
MrPink
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11 May 16 04:56 PM , donnie(badcallm8) wrote:

I'm shoving here , folding is not a option , why would u fold with the best hand possible , make them pay to catch there flush if they even have that draw .




I'm not a big Omaha player, but I agree with donnie.

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2 years ago  ::  12 May 16 06:01 PM #4
TlalocUK
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12 May 16 09:45 AM , MrPink wrote:

11 May 16 04:56 PM , donnie(badcallm8) wrote:

I'm shoving here , folding is not a option , why would u fold with the best hand possible , make them pay to catch there flush if they even have that draw .




I'm not a big Omaha player, but I agree with donnie.


There are a LOT of possible hands the others have, I'd suspect that one of them at least had trips, possibly the guy that raised.

Other dangers are possible 2 pairs, hoping for FH?
the obvious Flush draw (possibly the biggest danger)

But I agree with the others...  Shove!  you have a made hand and its the nuts at the moment. I dont think I'd worry about someone having a straight with you.

But then... Its not my money :)

Please post what you did and what happened?

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2 years ago  ::  12 May 16 07:11 PM #5
grumpy (got me vajazzle back)
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here it is in full

#Game No : 882978535
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 882978535 *****
$0.02/$0.05 Blinds Pot Limit Omaha - ***
Table Fortaleza 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: HardMagiccc ( $32.22 )
Seat 2: neverhood47 ( $2.95 )
Seat 3: grump15 ( $6.90 )
Seat 4: Fishtale456 ( $5.32 )
Seat 5: Melaksanteri ( $4.75 )
Seat 6: MValley ( $1.90 )
Seat 7: Drifter_CH ( $15.17 )
Seat 9: linda7594 ( $12.34 )
Seat 10: kieran41111 ( $7.13 )
MValley posts small blind [$0.02]
Drifter_CH posts big blind [$0.05]
neverhood47 posts dead blind [$0.02 + $0.05]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to grump15 [ Qd, Kd, Jc, 8s ]
linda7594 calls [$0.05]
kieran41111 folds
HardMagiccc calls [$0.05]
neverhood47 checks
grump15 calls [$0.05]
Fishtale456 calls [$0.05]
Melaksanteri calls [$0.05]
MValley folds
Drifter_CH checks
** Dealing flop ** [ Td, 9h, Kh ]
Drifter_CH bets [$0.19]
linda7594 calls [$0.19]
HardMagiccc calls [$0.19]
neverhood47 folds
grump15 calls [$0.19]
Fishtale456 raises [$1.53]
Melaksanteri folds
Drifter_CH calls [$1.34]
linda7594 folds
HardMagiccc calls [$1.34]
grump15 calls [$1.34]
** Dealing turn ** [ 7d ]
Drifter_CH checks
HardMagiccc checks
grump15 bets [$3.35]
Fishtale456 raises [$3.74]
Drifter_CH folds
HardMagiccc calls [$3.74]
grump15 calls [$0.39]
** Dealing river ** [ As ]
HardMagiccc checks
grump15 bets [$0.80]
HardMagiccc calls [$0.80]
** Summary **
grump15 shows [ Qd, Kd, Jc, 8s ]
Fishtale456 shows [ 2c, Qc, Js, Ah ]
HardMagiccc shows [ 6s, Tc, Ts, 8c ]
Fishtale456 collected [ $8.51 ]
grump15 collected [ $8.52 ]
grump15 collected [ $1.52 ]



a pair of melons beats anything
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2 years ago  ::  12 May 16 09:55 PM #6
slim
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Its an ugly spot and depending on levels im playing and any notes would dictate what i do.
In omaha we always want to be drawing to the nuts if poss.
I have many hands with simalar situations and in this spot have found it is best to fold.
We could be about a 32% chance of just splitting this pot on this flop and a 5% of winning it.
At low levels you get weaker players but the higher you play they wont be raising or reraising unless they are drawing to a stronger hand.
As you said in 1st post you could well be splitting it, why put anymore in when we are only going to be splitting it if the board runs out dry, say a heart comes or board pairs we know we are beat.
Many times i have seen 2-3 players hit the nuts where 1 has flush draw and other as draw to FH.
Always try to have other outs when hitting the nuts in omaha as turn and river can change things quickly.

Hero - Kd Qd Jc 8s   4.50%

V1 - Jh Qh 8d 7d     34.25%

V2 - 10c 10s Js Qs   29%

A tie (split)    32%

From time to time you will see what seems unbelievable but it does happen, out of the above hands what 1 do we want?
All hands above have flopped the nuts but we want V1s hand as he is also drawing to more winning outs.
 
There are so many bad players out there, that you will find better spots to get it in with.
Good luck in your games.

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2 years ago  ::  12 May 16 10:45 PM #7
donnie(badcallm8)
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Understand what u saying slim but u say best to fold , how the flying hell can u fold the best hand possible incase people have drawing hands no matter what level they are .
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2 years ago  ::  13 May 16 11:07 PM #8
slim
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If i have no other outs of improving my hand, from experience and many hands played i have folded many times flopping the nuts when i know that i am only going to be splitting the pot when my villains have potentially more cards to hit to improve.
It all depends on who is in the pot,i have lost many a large pot where i have flopped the nuts and a player i know is in it with me who has a solid image raises me on a scary flop i know they have the nuts and outs to hit a flush or a FH.
There are so many better spots you will get on cash tables if you  are patient enough.
In omaha always try to draw to the nuts.
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2 years ago  ::  15 May 16 03:41 AM #9
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In a tourney it's a big bet spot, cash table?! hmm 50/50, you've got all day to flop a boat or beta.
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