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1 year ago ::
01 Feb 12 01:18 AM
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May 24, 2011
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During the bubble time just now i had a nice discussion with another regular about how to improve the games.
If you observe the high roller games you will notice that the bubble usually takes a long time.. and well i would go on and say it kind of even kills the tournament structure and **** becomes a crapshoot after (unless you're a bigstack) for most of the remaining field.
The guy on my table came up with the idea to freeze the blinds during the bubble time, which sounds like a great idea to me!
Don't know how hard it is too implement this into the software tho but this should solve the problem very well i think.
To all who play in these games, please let me know what you think about this idea and how u feel about the situation.
Thank you,
RR
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1 year ago ::
01 Feb 12 07:07 AM
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Not that I play many games at the moment but I think it only fair that all players should be able to voice opinions as any ideas implimented for 1 game may be carried over to others and affect us all.
I take it that the bubble is hand for hand at the moment and that the delay is not caused by clocking?
Is it because to many players satellite their way in and are therefore happy to just scrape into the money?
Is the first level of payout to high as to encourage players to try to scrape into the money?
Are players playing above their bankroll and happy to scrape into the money? Whatever the reason surely if you were to freeze blinds you are taking away part of the game that is important? You certainly would not get that in a live game.
The blinds increasing help to get rid of the short stacks and should encourage more action.
Freezing the blinds would be a reason for me not to play.
Post, then make another post and then post even more.
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1 year ago ::
01 Feb 12 11:50 AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 21, 2011
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Cryptic's right it's a rubbish idea,playing the bubble/blind increase is a big part of the game tactically ,why would you want to remove it.
Also and more to the point if you freeze the blinds you would get less action not more,therefore the game would run longer still.
The answer to stop making the game a crapshoot would be slower structure but bigger anti's that don't increase after the bubble.Therefore people couldn't sit about waiting to cash as the anti's would eat them
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 01:08 AM
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Date Joined:
May 24, 2011
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To all who play in these games, please let me know what you think about this idea and how u feel about the situation.
Thank you,
RR
bump.
just to give an example, from the same night i made the post:
18 paid, 20 people left, avg stack is about 20bb.
bubble burst 40mins later, 18 people left, avg stack is about 10bb.
the hand-for-hand action is what is making it all last so long, i think we played about 7 hands or something in that time.
Freezing the blinds would take away the whole point of blinding out/stalling just to get the mincash people seem to crave for and ENCOURAGES action instead of making it tighter ffs.
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 01:22 AM
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Date Joined:
May 24, 2011
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I take it that the bubble is hand for hand at the moment and that the delay is not caused by clocking?
no, tanking/stalling happends a shitload while people still can do it, just before we get to H4H, nothing wrong with that tho..
Is it because to many players satellite their way in and are therefore happy to just scrape into the money?
Probably, but not solely this
Is the first level of payout to high as to encourage players to try to scrape into the money?
payout sizing is fine, but money is money
Are players playing above their bankroll and happy to scrape into the money?
dont know, again mincash > no cash obv
Whatever the reason surely if you were to freeze blinds you are taking away part of the game that is important? You certainly would not get that in a live game.
actually they DO that in live games, they even add/remove levels to improve the game.
The blinds increasing help to get rid of the short stacks and should encourage more action.
Freezing the blinds would be a reason for me not to play.
Sigh, again i obviously understand this but as both of you probably did not read in my post this goes to an extreme level and kills the game for 80% of the field, THAT IS THE REASON WHY I MADE THIS TOPIC
If this is all to hard,i guess adding a few(at least 2) more blindlevels could fix the problem with the tournament turning into a crapshoot afterwards.
I'm just trying to help you guys improve your tournaments..
Ugh i'm sure many people who actually play the thing do agree with me, they just don't post here..
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 05:37 PM
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May 24, 2011
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So i read you're 100% against it, but i couldn't find any reasons why in your post?
Anyway i guess freezing the blinds is not the right solution, as it's hard to implement(?) and maybe not fair towards other tournaments, but there's more ways to prevent this problem from happening.
The problem beeing, the tournament structure beeing bad after the bubble has burst, you guys understand this right, cuz im not sure u all do.
Adding a few extra blind levels during/before/after should fix this problem, i guess this is the best solution?
Does that sounds more fair?
RR
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 05:57 PM
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18 paid, 20 people left, avg stack is about 20bb.
bubble burst 40mins later, 18 people left, avg stack is about 10bb
I haven't played the high roller games reraise (haven't played much of anything for a while) what is the average blind level when the bubble is reached?
Maybe adding another level midway in the tournament, then another around expected bubble time and one more after the bubble bursts (would have to be guessed at tbh)
But I see what your saying here, nobody wants the average stack to be 10bb when the bubble bursts, but it's going to happen when people are limping along with 10 still to go out, I think the extra levels could help but freezing the blinds would be a major update, if it's even possible
I'm too old to die young
Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 07:29 PM
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Date Joined:
May 24, 2011
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erff this is so annoying, kinda makes me realise why i am one of the few regulars on the site that still comes in to post here.. i'm just wasting my time here aint i? @Daryl i know you mean well but as i specifically asked in the OP, to please only let people that play these tournaments give their opinion, not cuz urs isn't important, but those people actually know wtf i'm talking about so we don't have these replys derailing the whole topic about things that don't even matter. So many assumptions in ur post i'm not even gonna get into it @ wiggy yep, adding blind levels > freezing blinds Let me try it again, Sean/Gareth, can we have a few more blindslevels added in the 7500/10k High Roller?
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Sean -888 Mgr
on Feb 03, 2012 - 10:00AM
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 08:06 PM
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erff this is so annoying, kinda makes me realise why i am one of the few regulars on the site that still comes in to post here.. i'm just wasting my time here aint i?
@Daryl
i know you mean well but as i specifically asked in the OP, to please only let people that play these tournaments give their opinion, not cuz urs isn't important, but those people actually know wtf i'm talking about so we don't have these replys derailing the whole topic about things that don't even matter.
So many retarded assumptions in ur post i'm not even gonna get into it
@ wiggy
yep, adding blind levels > freezing blinds
Let me try it again,
Sean/Gareth, can we have a few more blindslevels added in the 7500/10k High Roller?
You have answered you own question a bit.. as most of the "regulars" posting here are low-mid stakes then your question about high value is going to fall on deaf ears so too speak.
My suggestion is talk to everyone who plays them at the table for a few nights running and get the general vibe if people who PLAY these games is the same i.e an extra blind level or two then kindly ask them all to email ops surely if they see all of you email about it they will change it this im sure of.
winner winner chicken dinner
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1 year ago ::
02 Feb 12 08:10 PM
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Tthinking about what to have for dinner
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Considering your a High roller ( "at this moment ") and you took 3/4 of this page before you explained yourself properly
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Sean -888 Mgr
on Feb 03, 2012 - 09:58AM
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